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Dr. Khalid Sohail

First Letter

 Before we discuss the first interview I would like to share with you the list of Creative People I have interviewed.

From Pakistan I interviewed

  1. Pervez Hoodbhoy
  2. Fahmida Riaz
  3. Kishwar Naheed
  4. Arif Abdul Mateen
  5. Ahmad Faraz
  6. Ahmed Nadeem Qasmi
  7. Intezar Hussain

From India I interviewed

  1. Nida Fazli
  2.  Gopi Chand Narang
  3.  Sharib Rudaulvi
  4. Iftikhar Imam Siddiqi

 

From Canada I interviewed

  1. Omar Walmsley
  2. Rob Grimminck
  3. Bette Davis
  4. Shakila Rafiq
  5. Yangu Verma

From Europe I interviewed

  1. Sain Sucha
  2. Abdullah Hussain
  3. Saqi Farooqi
  4. Sohan Qadri

  

          LETTER NUMBER ONE…WHO ARE SECULAR MUSLIMS?

Dear Naeem ! When I mentioned my interview with Pervez Hoodbhoy I was pleased to find out that you know him and his family very well and have also met his mentor Eqbal Ahmed a few times.

While I was reading Pervez Hoodbhoy’s interview, I realized that he was quite open and honest about his criticisms of Agha Khan and his Ismaili sect. He thinks that Agha Khan is a ‘fraud’ and his sect ‘exploits’ vulnerable, simple and gullible people to collect money so that he can spend on his ‘race horses’. That is why Pervez left the Ismaili sect as a teenager and joined main stream of Islam. Later on we find out in the interview that Pervez Hoodbhoy was quite influenced by left wing ideology as a young adult and became a Marxist. As far as I understand Marxism is an atheistic ideology. But later on Pervez Hoodbhoy shares that he and his dear mentor Eqbal Ahmed call themselves Secular Muslims. I am always confused by this term. The question I ask you, the way I have asked other intellectuals from Pakistan, is why our left wing intellectuals call themselves Secular Muslims? We know that ideologically these people do not believe in God, Prophets, Scriptures and Day Of Judgment. They are basically non-believers and do not believe in the institution of religion. Then why do they not call themselves agnostics and atheists. I have met many Pakistani socialists and communists who, in their private conversations with friends will accept that they do not believe in a Creator and Divine Revelations and Life After Death but they will not acknowledge that in front of their relatives, neighbors and colleagues.

I ask myself, “What stops these intellectuals to be fully honest?” The answers that I come up are as follows:

  1. Some intellectuals are afraid of people’s reaction. They have seen what happened to Christians, Hindus, Ahmedis and other religious minorities in Pakistan especially after the curse of blasphemy law. So they do not want to be persecuted and penalized and put in jail and killed so they keep quiet and keep they ideology private.
  2. There are others who are not afraid but out of respect for others they keep quiet. When they are in the company of believers they are respectful of their Scriptures and Prophets and Gods and do not discuss such issues. They are basically Humanists who are respectful of all faiths. They do not criticize other people’s ideologies as they believe that faith is a personal and private matter.
  3. I have also met some atheists who told me that they chose their battles in life. They want to fight for peace and social justice and human rights for women and children and minorities but they do not want to get involved in ideological and religious debates. They feel that one cannot have a rational and logical dialogue with religious people so they keep quiet. I wonder whether Pervez Hoodbhoy belongs to this group as he does not want to alienate himself from people he wants to work with and change their course of history. He stated in his interview, “ I think if you want to have any degree of credibility with people whose destiny you want to change, then you cannot say, “I am not one of you”.
  4. I have also met some communists and atheists who have a lot of knowledge of Socialism and Marxism and have read other Western Philosophers like Freud and Einstein and Darwin extensively, but they never read Quran and Hadees and Fiqah seriously so they cannot have an honest dialogue about scriptures. So in spite of being very well read people they are quite ignorant about the teachings of Islam and other religions. On the other hand it is ironic that many of those Pakistanis and Muslims who are experts in Quran and Hadees never read Freud and Darwin and Einstein and Marx and other Western Philosophers seriously.  Such a gulf of knowledge has created serious issues in our society philosophically, socially and politically. I meet many Pakistani intellectuals who lack clarity of thought. They are not conceptually and philosophically clear. It is only in Pakistan that a political leader like Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto could be successful by stating

Islam is our religion

Socialism is our economics

Democracy is our politics

With such confusing slogans it is no wonder that Socialism and Democracy went into the background and Islam came into such a fore-front that Bhutto himself became instrumental in declaring Ahmedis as non-Muslims and then millions of people suffered.

Pervez Hoodbhoy in his interview himself acknowledges the tragedy of Professor Abdus Salam who loved Pakistan but Pakistan and Pakistanis rejected him because he was a dedicated Ahmedi. My father Abdul Basit who was a contemporary of Abdus Salam shared with me that there was a time in Pakistan when there were students who went to his room in the hostel to assassinate him but luckily he was not in his room and was saved.

I feel that because of such fear and intimidation many intellectuals and free thinkers in Pakistan cannot openly say we are agnostics or atheists or non-believers. They are afraid to be declared murtad and then arrested and tried in religious courts of Pakistan.

When we read about intellectuals and scientists and philosophers and free thinkers in history from other parts of the world whether it was Marx in Russia, Russell in England or Freud in Austria they did not tip-toe around those issues of ideology. They were open and honest and frank in sharing what they believed because they thought that we cannot have an open and honest dialogue until we are free to share what we believe in. We do not need to impose our values on others and we can be respectful of other people’s philosophies, ideologies and lifestyles but how can we have a dialogue and resolve our conflicts if we are not fully honest. Galelio and Darwin shared their truths openly and faced the reactions of traditional institutions especially churches.

So my impression is that many intellectuals from Pakistan are either afraid to speak the whole truth or confused about their ideology as they have not done their intellectual homework.  There are also some who find ideological debate irrelevant to their cause, goal and dream.

For me the term Secular Muslim has been confusing because

…some use the term Secular meaning freedom of  religion while others use it for freedom from religion

…some use the term Muslim from ideological and religious point of view while others use it from a cultural point of view (rather than calling themselves Punjabi, Pukhtoon or Arab reflecting their linguistic and ethnic heritage they call themselves Cultural Muslims).

Dear Naeem ! What are your views about the term and the people who call themselves Secular Muslims? Do you find them as confusing as I do? Are you one of them? Do you know some Secular Muslims?

I believe that to create Humanistic Societies we need an open and honest dialogue in our communities. I think that is a prerequisite before we can have secular laws and traditions. I was shocked to find out that in some universities of Pakistan, before entering a Ph.D program the students are asked to give in writing that their research results will not be in conflict with Islam and Ideology of Pakistan. It is a sad state of affairs and in the last few decades it has become worse rather than getting better. I think that it is the responsibility of writers, artists and intellectuals of the community to create such an environment in the academic, political, religious and social institutions so that people can speak their minds without fear of persecution.

One of my couplets of a ghazal is

     Hamaray bachon kay zehnon pay kab say pehray hain

     Kahan    say   aay   ga   aazaad   naujawan   koi

And another one

     Is   darja   rewaayaat   ki   deewarain   uthain

     Naslon  say kisi shakhs nain bahar naheen dekha

Looking forward to your response.

Sincerely Sohail

Ps. I will send this letter to some of my friends to see if they would like to respond to this letter. If I get some interesting responses I would ask Pervez Salahuddin to connect those responses to Pervez Hoodbhoy’s interview that can be read in the INTERVIEWS section of my website

http://www.drsohail.com/Articals/Pervezhoodbhoy.htm

 sincerely sohail